Following up on the lie that President Joe Biden wasn’t prosecuted because he was too old, today we look at Donald J. Trump’s remark that if he isn’t elected, it would mean a “bloodbath” for the nation.
Democrats immediately seized on the words and screamed that Trump, basically, promised a bloody civil war if he were not elected.
As you know, I am no fan of Trump’s, but that is not what happened. Today, I will relax and let a reputable fact-checker carry the water.
As the nonpartisan FactCheck.org reported, “While speaking about the potential loss of U.S. auto manufacturing jobs to foreign countries, former President Donald Trump said if he isn’t elected, ‘it’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.’”
“If you actually watch and listen to the section, he was talking about the auto industry and tariffs,” Steven Cheung, a spokesman for Trump’s campaign, told the Washington Post, adding that “Biden’s policies will create an economic bloodbath for the auto industry and autoworkers.”
That explanation seems the most plausible, says FactCheck, given the context of Trump’s comments.
“Speaking at a rally on the grounds of the Dayton International Airport in Ohio, Trump said that over the last three decades, Mexico has siphoned off U.S. auto manufacturing jobs, and he accused China of building car manufacturing plants in Mexico that will cost U.S. autoworkers their jobs,” FactCheck said.
“The Trump campaign also noted — rightly — that one of the definitions of “bloodbath, according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary is a major economic disaster. We did a Nexis search of TV news transcripts and found numerous instances of bloodbath being used in that way,” said FactCheck.
So when you hear Democrats saying, without qualification, that Trump promised a “bloodbath” if he is elected, you are being lied to.
Thank you Stu for a very straightforward column.
Let’s all be honest with each other: no matter whom you support, both sides edit, manipulate, and lie.
This year is an election between two bad choices.
Robert – hence my comment yesterday on the use and definition of the word “Poli-tricks.”
And you hit nail on the head regarding choice this year: Worse and Worser.
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Far too many people take words/actions out of context, so? Sleepy J ? Or the Mad man?
“If your wife finds a strange bra in the glove compartment of the car, there will be a bloodbath.”
The word is dependent on its context.
Except for your closing sentence, “…Trump promised a bloodbath if he is elected,” today’s was a fair contribution to the political scene.
But does Trump really need yet one more apologist?
And when I corrected the lies about Biden yesterday, was I an apologist — or just someone enforcing truth on both sides?
Next we need some context to Trump’s”dictator for a day” comment. Thx
It’s bad enough when politicians and government officials lie.
But when the media lies and twists what a person really said, it’s beyond the pale. As far as I can remember, the media has rarely if ever twisted what Democrats say. It has always been Republicans whose words have been purposely taken out of context, distorted or, as in the case of “inject bleach,” totally fabricated.
IMHO the media is the biggest culprit in the ignorance, partisanship and divison in this country.
I wholeheartedly agree!
I agree!
Everyone really does NEED to watch what politicians DO rather than listen to what they say, in any case.
DJT did some great things for this country —- his choice of words not so much
He did? Like when he achieved the following;
Mexico will pay for the wall.
No Americans will die of Covid
I will announce a healthcare plan better than Obama Care in two weeks. (He said this 15 times while in office.
He would get North Korea to give up their nukes.
He won the 2020 election.
His inauguration had the larges attendance of any President.
The path of hurricane Dorian
That’s just ONE example of Trump’s statements being manipulated and the public being gaslighted into believing them….covered up by the Left-leaning mainstream media. I can’t believe that in his campaign ads, Biden is still using the “Charlottesville Lie” where he claims Trump said there were ‘fine people on both sides’ made to sound like the Neo Nazi’s and their ilk were fine people after he condemned them in no uncertain terms! AND that was debunked by Snopes too! But those words were left OUT of the video. Or Trump’s instructing the election protestors to march “peacefully and patriotically” to the Capitol, but those words were never heard by those watching MSM. I find all the lies in this campaign absolutely sickening.
How about his claim that the 2020 election was rigged, that no Americans would die from Covid, or Mexico would pay for the wall. Or my personal favorite, telling the Proud Boys to stand by and stand back instead of disavowing them.
We should always go by the truth. And the truth is Donald Trump was a good president. Joe Biden was a terrible president. Put your hate away and do what’s best for the country. Vote Trump
Although Stu is obviously correct on this point, you are not very smart, Daniel. Have you read Project 2025? You know, the document written by 140 of Trump’s former associates, the one that mentions him by name over and over? The one he says he knows nothing about? The one that, among other things, takes away my social security and Medicaid/Medicare and turns the country into a Nonfascist Christian State? Trump is the FATHER of hatred in this country. He is the one who has caused all this derision, yes, aided by a CONSERVATIVE media that simply will not tell the truth. So don’t be fucking lecturing US on “hatred.” Hating hate is not hatred.
And a P.S.: though Stu IS correct on the context of this statement, it’s important to note that many morons in Trump’s base are NOT sophisticated in their understanding of language and context. When they hear the word “bloodbath,” they tend to take such things to heart and do stuff like, for instance, ATTACK THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL BUILDING, shit on the floor there, brutalize police officers, threaten to hand the Vice President and murder the Speaker of the House. There’s some fucking “context” for you.
Project 2025 is a fucking dogwhistle for you TDS patients. Covid, Ukraine, Supply Chain, Laptop, January 6th, Project 2025…all buzzwords you repeat because the WaPo tells you too. You hear these words and I think your dick moves a little
Here we are talking about the truth and your spouting off about some hypothetical bullshit. The truth is that Trumps record is far superior to Bidens. And even people who voted for Biden before know it. Get rid of your hate and look at the truth. Biden and the democrats have been lying to us for years
NON-fascist?????????????
The goal of P2025 is to create a Christian caliphate within the United States of America. In other words, ISIS with a cross instead of a crescent.
NON-fascist?????????????
The goal of P2025 is to create a Christian caliphate within the United States of America. In other words, ISIS with a cross instead of a crescent.
Also, trump DID NOT did not cause MAGA; MAGA caused him.
It wasn’t like everything was “Kumbaya” before 2016. Instead, trump was cunning (as opposed to “smart”) enough to understand the seething resentment, hatred and fear virtually 50 percent of the country harbored toward immigrants, the LGBTQ crowd, liberals (I mean “radical leftists”) and created a “safe space” for those who shared those sentiments–a place where tens of millions could feel comfortable with their malignancies. He knew success could be achieved by harnessing that bigotry and fear of non-white, non-Christian, non-heterosexual people.
I am sure you did not read Project 2025. Nor did I. Here is a summary by Snopes, which leans left. Nothing about a Christian caliphate, which sounds like a Dem talking point. Is it right wing? Yes. Can much of it be accomplished by the president alone? No. The entire 2025 is embedded in here if you want to read it. https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/07/11/project-2025-explained/
What did Trump mean when he said that American Jews who do not vote Republican are disloyal.
I believe Trump was referring to most, not all Jews, do not support Israel. At least they didn’t prior to 10/7. That slaughter has to have changed some minds. But not only that, they’ve historically voted for Democrats who are not supportive of Israel e.g. Obama and now Biden. And the “squad” are all antisemites who favor Hamas over Israel.
I believe that that Trump was saying if you don’t vote for Republicans, those jews are traitors. Historically the Squad is blip on the political radar. Obama did more to help Israel than the Abraham Accords ever did.
I give you credit for trying.
So when Trump had a small group of antisemites and White Supremacists for dinner at the Whitehouse how was that supporting American Jews?
Some twisted thinking there, Ms. Jackie. Trump’s statement was abominable. How DARE he equate support of Israel with Jewish Americans choice of party!!! Your comment is not supported by FACTS. Joe Biden has served our nation for 40 years, and has always been Pro-Israel. Our Democratic President, and high-ranking leaders, Speaker of the House Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Shumer are all pro-Israel. The “Squad” is about 4 people, and though they are not Pro-Israel, they are not “Pro-Hamas”. I’d like to ask where you get your “news”, but pretty sure its Fox.
Why don’t you write him a letter and ask him.
What Biden meant when he said if you don’t vote for me, you’re not Black.
Two idiotic statements
Regardless of the context of Trump’s remarks, the facts remain that he is unfit for the office of President of the United States. His demeanor, his temperament, his personality are much better suited to reality TV than to leading our nation. I’m thankful Joe Biden for ousting him in 2020, and I pray to God above he steps aside and lets somebody, anybody take the Democratic reins over in 2024. Because right now, we are faced with the unenviable task of choosing between the deranged and the decrepit. It’s really not supposed to be a battle of two aged narcissistic candidates, neither of whom is really a viable candidate.
Mark – I think you’re being too kind when you say that tRUMP is unfit for the office of US President.
The misuse of politicians statements are tactics used by political operatives to spread fear and confusion on the voting public. If there were laws that only factual statements would be allowed our elections process would be less dramatic. The likes of Carville, Rove, Atwater and Axelrod make a living pointing out theatrically the negative statements of the other party’s candidate. When Trump referred to a blood bath in the auto industry it was a poor choice of words in my opinion. Campaign Managers need to stay on message without give their opponents fuel to incite fear and distrust in the voting public.
It is the price we pay for free speech.
The one and only reason many US manufacturing jobs went abroad was that wages in the US for those jobs were/are not competitive for the workers who want those jobs here.
UAW, as just one example, is still allowed to be a monopoly across the auto industry, so there is no way to have fair and competitive wages here for our workers.
A monopoly is a monopoly, unless that monopoly is a labor union monopoly, then it is not a monopoly! Figure out that riddle, please.
Why is the UAW and others, still allowed their favored and protected loophole in our Anti-Trust Laws ,when the result has been destructive and has directly caused millions of jobs from our own country, from our own voting citizens, taxpayers, families, to be sent abroad? Millions! Why?
Aren’t labor unions, our historic and legendary protectors of workers. supposed to be pro jobs, pro labor and pro America, yet the UAW and like minded entities have forced millions of jobs to leave our country, and forced millions of jobs left here to be replaced by robots, by not allowing fair and open competition for all our brilliant workers in the United States?
“Who is on first?”
There is no monopoly. There are nonunion auto makers https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/29/business/uaw-organize-nonunion-automakers/index.html
Dang, you all going off on politicians, and missing the point that it’s the MEDIA that is distorting the truth, failing to report the whole truth, and blatantly lying in order to favor their preferred politician.
Politicians have ALWAYS been rather sleazy. It’s the media’s job to report on them truthfully, completely and without partisanship. Yet it seems as if all we get are lies, partial stories and blatant double standards.
Sara – you certainly are not wrong regarding the media here. Not all media, of course, but too much of them. Kind of reminds me how the media did the best job they could hiding Roosevelt’s wheelchair problem. But at least Roosevelt didn’t suffer from tRUMP brain.
Agenda 2030?
Because, you know, in politics, taking an opponent’s statement out of context is just not done…